Agreed with Blondie, except to add that, in reality, it went the way of 1975. In other words think of "New Light". The second best invention Jehovah's Witnesses ever created. It is a way of ignoring the past and focusing on the future, i.e., the latest nonsensical rubbish to keep The Great Unwashed busy.
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what happened to "peace and security"???
by highdose ini remember growing up as a dub that everyone was constantly on the look out for what could be the cry of peace and security... then suddenly people just stopped, it stopped being mentioned in talks ... everything.
theories please?.
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There is nothing I could say to my 16 year old self, as he was far too stubborn, and so brainwashed by Jehovah's Witnesses he would not listen. There is nothing I could say nor nothing I could show him that would change his mind. He was 100% convinced he would live forever on a paradise earth after Jehovah murdered 6 billion people.
He was also deeply in denial about a rather dysfunctional group of people he grew up around, in particular two people he called mom and dad. He would have to face the truth about them in a few years. Actually I wish now there was a way I could help him avoid that pain. I wish I had a way to keep him from knowing. The truth really hurts, and sometimes devastates. I remember thinking of Hiroshima. I look back on that kid and I can't help but feel sorry for him.
I really do wish there was some way I could help him. But there isn't.
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I need help in facing our abuser...
by cognac inthe thought of it scares me so much i can't even think straight... just writing this makes my heart race like you wouldn't believe.. i need to face my dad and mom.
my dad abused us, my mom allowed the abuse.
i need to face him with my two older brothers - the ones who got it the worst and who never faced them about it.... i know my mind will go blank so i'm simply going to write out what i have to say and read it to them.
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What are your thoughts or anyone here's thoughts on what was going through there minds when there own husbands were actively abusing there child? Did they not feel anything? Did they want to step in and stop it? Did they think there own child deserved it???
I've often wondered this. How does OJ think about the murders? People who do hideous things remember them, how do they live with themselves?
I don't know. I am coming around to thinking that they find a way to justify it in some sense. "Well maybe I went a little overboard, but you shouldn't have done XYZ so you deserved it!" That sort of thing. The class wife-in-denial justifies her husband's (or boyfriend's) abuse "At least he provides for us". Usually these women are timid and fearful while being self-absorbed. They're quite willing to sacrifice their child so long as they get what they want.
I think they sometimes have to change the past, re-write history so they remember themselves in a better light. This was my father.
Lastly I think other times what they did was so awful, without justification, that they repress it, compartmentalize it and forget it.
Bluecanary is right. Offenders are narcissistic and self-absorbed. It is very difficult for them to think of others, only what they want and desire at that moment in time.
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I need help in facing our abuser...
by cognac inthe thought of it scares me so much i can't even think straight... just writing this makes my heart race like you wouldn't believe.. i need to face my dad and mom.
my dad abused us, my mom allowed the abuse.
i need to face him with my two older brothers - the ones who got it the worst and who never faced them about it.... i know my mind will go blank so i'm simply going to write out what i have to say and read it to them.
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I know my mind will go blank so I'm simply going to write out what I have to say and read it to them. I'm going to say how it affected me, how I see it affecting some of my brothers and sisters, and that my mother is just as much to blame.
I just wanted to add to excellent posts already on this thread. They're right, your parents will deny, will most likely be angry and blame you and your brothers.
The only reason to ever confront your abuser is for closure. It's usually done toward the end of recovery, when you have faced and confronted long buried anger, fear and sadness over the abuse. It's part of the transformation from a victim to a survivor.
I would encourage you to write down everything you want to say, because you're right. Your mind will go blank. You will "numb out", disossciate in other words. It's the process where the mind shuts down because the feelings and/or experience is so big it cannot be processed at that time. This is how feelings and memories are buried.
I would also encourage you to take along someone outside the family. Someone that is 100% on your side. You and your brothers will need someone to ground you as well as to know when to bail out. Do not be surprised if your parents say some pretty hurtful things to you.
It would be good if you could record the conversation for listening later. When I confronted my parents, my wife took notes and since she was a secretary and knew short hand, she took almost word-for-word notes. Reading it later, even decades later, I am shocked at how cruel they were and how hard I tried to love them.
At the very least, when you get home, immediately write down everything you remember. For one thing it will be healing to purge it out of your system, and for another you need a record for later.
Good luck. This is a really tough thing you're about to do.
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My Reservations About Calling the Garridos JWs
by undercover inthis thread contains my thoughts after having read several other threads regarding the garridos being jws.... just because it is reported that the garridos are jws doesn't mean that they are really witnesses.... they may have some link to jws such as her being rasied one, his studying while in prison or any number of possibilites where they came to know a little about jwism.. even if they were baptized along the way somewhere doesn't mean that they were active, participating members in the local congregation.. there's a lot wrong with the jw religion and it's policies have helped protect pedophiles and other sexual predators from being brought to justice but i have reservations about shouting from the rooftops that the garridos were jws, when 1) it hasn't been confirmed and 2) it really doesn't do anything to expose the wt society's culpability in covering up sexual abuse.. the garridos are truly whacked.
i'm sure that local jws are just as horrified at what's happened as the average person is.
if the garridos had any connection with a local hall, i bet that the local jws were wary of them due to his nuttiness.
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There's a lot wrong with the JW religion and it's policies have helped protect pedophiles and other sexual predators from being brought to justice but I have reservations about shouting from the rooftops that the Garridos were JWs, when 1) it hasn't been confirmed and 2) it really doesn't do anything to expose the WT Society's culpability in covering up sexual abuse.
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If they were Witnesses, the media will find it out and breathlessly report on it. A fringe connection isn't enough to matter one way or the other. And it doesn't change the reality of what that sect's attitude toward child abuse really is.
If, for example, it is found out that they were Witnesses and say someone in the Hall knew about the girl and didn't report it now that would be something to shout from the rooftops.
But having some throwaway line mentioning Jehovah's Witnesses -- well so what? What else is there? If nothing, then move along. Until more is known one way or the other just tap the brake a bit.
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Anyone who has a negative view of Jehovah's Witnesses is hateful.
Sorry just being paranoid.
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EVER FIGHT AN INSURANCE COMPANY??
by Mary inas many of you know, my brother in law is fighting a life-threatening disease and the chances of him surviving, are slim.
my sister has been off on short term disability since june, since she's in no shape to work.
she's worked for the same company for 32 years and has probably taken 5 sick days during the entire time she's worked there.
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My advice, for what it is worth, is to get an attorney that specializes in disability cases. Let them handle this, especially since this is likely to go to Long-Term Disability. Girl, you may be a bulldog who doesn't let go, but this isnot what you do for a living. In your well meaning efforts to bulldoze through the insurance company, you risk pissing off the wrong person off and having them enter a code into a field in the computer in such a way that the claims will be denied over and over. Let the lawyer send letters on your sister's behalf. Often, a letter on an attorney's letterhead (written by a paralegal) is all it takes to get the insurance company to roll over.
Agreed 1,000,000%.
Insurance companies will not take you seriously unless you get a lawyer (which puts to lie their whining about litigation costs). They demand you have an attorney before taking you seriously.
But make sure your attorney specializes in disability cases. If they are, they know the routine and know which buttons to push to get the evil machinery working.
I've been there before and it is no fun. We've fought insurance companies before, and won, just make sure you do it the right way or it will cost you a helluva lot monetarily and emotionally.
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"Giant" Oil Find in Gulf of Mexico
by Big Tex inthe u.s. uses 20 million barrels of oil a year.
if there are 1 billion barrels recoverable this could lead to energy independence until such time as we can change our infrastructure to one that is not fossil fuel based.
at the very least it could lead to a source of oil that is more stable than the middle east.. .
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The U.S. uses 20 million barrels of oil a year. If there are 1 billion barrels recoverable this could lead to energy independence until such time as we can change our infrastructure to one that is not fossil fuel based. At the very least it could lead to a source of oil that is more stable than the Middle East.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/article/107659/bp-makes-giant-oil-find-in-gulf-of-mexico
LONDON (Reuters) - Oil major BP Plc said it has made an oil discovery in the Gulf of Mexico, which analysts believe could contain over 1 billion barrels of recoverable reserves, reaffirming the Gulf's strategic importance to the industry.
BP said in a statement on Wednesday that it had made the "giant" find at its Tiber Prospect in the Keathley Canyon block 102, by drilling one of the deepest wells ever sunk by the industry.
Further appraisal will be required to ascertain the size of volumes of oil present, but a spokesman said the find should be bigger than its Kaskida discovery which has over 3 billion barrels of oil in place.
Estimates of recoverable reserves range from around 20 percent of oil in place.
"Assuming reserves in place of 4 billion barrels and a 35 percent recovery rate, BP's proven reserves .. would rise by 868 million barrels -- equivalent to 4.8 percent of the group's 18.14 billion barrels of proven reserves," Aymeric De-Villaret, oil analyst at Societe Generale said in a research note.
BP, the biggest oil producer in the U.S. and biggest leaseholder in the Gulf of Mexico, has a 62 percent working interest in the block, while Brazilian state-controlled Petrobras owns 20 percent and U.S. oil major ConocoPhillips owns 18 percent.
Iain Armstrong, analyst at Brewin Dolphin, said the discovery may have implications for long-term oil prices.
"It will ease concerns about peak oil because it shows there is life left in these mature areas," he said, adding that it could be the second half of the next decade before the find is producing.
The discovery also bodes well for other exploration in that part of the Gulf of Mexico, including at Royal Dutch Shell's nearby Great White field, Jason Kenny, oil analyst at ING in Edinburgh, said.
BP shares, which had been trading slightly down ahead of the statement, closed up 4.3 percent at 541 pence, outperforming a 1.75 percent rise in the DJ Stoxx European oil and gas sector index.
The Gulf of Mexico has become increasingly important to Western oil majors as oil rich-countries such as Saudi Arabia, Venezuela and Russia reserve their richest fields to be developed by their state-owned oil companies.
The Gulf is especially attractive because it offers high profit margins, due to relatively low taxation compared to countries such as Russia and Nigeria, and because of the low political risk.
As nearer-shore discoveries dry up, companies have pushed further out to sea, which has forced them to develop new technologies to detect and extract the oil.
The prospects for massive discoveries in the deep water of the Gulf of Mexico is also good news for U.S. politicians' ambitions to reduce the country's reliance on imported oil, although oil executives doubt the U.S. is capable of becoming self sufficient in oil.
(Reporting by Tom Bergin; Editing by Jon Loades-Carter and Rupert Winchester)
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Go BYU!!!
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Statistics: When one leaves does the other follow or is there usually separation?
by easyreader1970 inhas anyone ever given any serious consideration or even any done any actual research to find out what happens to couples when one person starts to fade or leaves outright?.
i've been reading lots of messages, reading blogs, listening to podcasts, and watching youtube videos.
it seems like the odds are 50/50.
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Big Tex
Or were you demonized and vilified when you revealed that you did not believe that the WBTS had the truth?
This was my experience. Not by my wife, Nina was very sweet and as supportive as her brainwashing would allow, but almost without exception every Witness behaved this way toward me.
I left in 1989. 13 years later, Nina did as well. The intervening time was very awkward between us but we got through it. Menopause on the other hand . . . .